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May 2, 2023: GREEK POLIS: ATHENS VS SPARTA - Coggle Diagram

- - - - staying home and tending to children
      - men lived a "public" life - going out
      - were not allowed to attend lectures
        
        believed that they were incapable of rational thought
        
        only men could attend lectures
  - - - poor diet
- - - - known for being well trained
        
        soldiers do not waver in war
        
        fully committed
        
        does not need much to survive - not used to luxurious foods
        
        taught to do well with little
        
        not materialistic like athens
        
        taught to be mentally and physically strong
      - most feared military
      - spartiates had the right to vote
      - boys were taught about warfare and fighting from a young age
        
        more time for the boys to learn and develop the mindset/skills for warfare
      - girls were taught similar things to boys - except warfare
        
        were taught survival skills
        
        generally less discriminate against women
        
        were seen as equals - could participate in sports
        
        strong and healthy women meant strong and healthy men in the future
        
        creates the potential for strong men in the long run, for the military
      - women were able to enjoy freedom to an extent, and roam around
        
        could own and control their own property
      - lower classes were slowly able to be involved in politics
    - - less people
      - did not allow women to take part in politics; not "using" their population to the full extent
      - strict government
        
        failure to abide to laws/rules led to harsh punishments
        
        most harsh punishments are to slaves
      - if fail to steal in agoge, would be beat by the person they failed to steal from, and by the instructor as well
      - overall difficut life
        
        "discomfort"
      - idea of two kings may lead to a fight between the two for power
      - failiure to meet expectations of society led to death - even to infants
        
        if they were deemed to be unhealthy/unfit, they would die
      - boys had to go through very harsh training and instructors
      - women were assigned to husbands - couldn't choose for themselves
  - - - more soldiers, or numbers for army
      - valued citizen's opinions: democracy
        
        may be more peaceful in terms of how the people view the government
      - foreigners were welcome
      - clear social structure
      - slaves were better treated than in sparta
        
        could hold important positions, such as a teacher or policeman
      - strong military
      - metics are able to get an education
      - girls are able to get some sort of education - through tutors
      - some women are able to hold high positions in religion/ritual events
      - varied culture
        
        extensive knowledge
      - had luxurious foods
      - wealthy families had nice homes
      - able to receive imports from others - they had ports
      - farmers who had enough land could be considered economically independent
      - later, debt slavery was gone
      - after a while, just as long as you have high salary, you could live a good life - no longer about social class per se
        
        social advancement was made easier
    - - more people to protect
        
        more of a responsibility
      - did not allow women to take part in political events
        
        did not "utilize" women/all of their population to their full extent
      - foreigners were not allowed to be citizens, unless parents were
      - slaves had no rights
        
        could be killed at any time
      - women had no rights
      - level of education of boys was dependant on the wealth of parents
      - females receive little formal education
        
        has no political power
        
        restricted skillsets
        
        did not play sports
        
        considered property of men
      - could complain about food dislikes
      - it would be a loss if luxurious homes were lost, or there were no "good food"
      - people who could not pay debts in time were turned to slaves
        
        conflicted with the idea of athens being equal
        
        growing discontent could lead to revolts