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(Mozi, Xunzi) - Coggle Diagram
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Xunzi
normative guidance
Xs denial of individual moral agency influences his prescription for the proper ordering of society. For while X notes that humans cannot lack community, he aslo asserts "if they form a community without social roles, there will be conflict; with conflict, there is disorder" 21
To X, the basis for forming social groups inherently lies within drawing distinctions and ordering society into social divisions
this ordering is essential to Xs account of the justification for political authority, for without it, X contends that without a societal hierarchy there will surely be conflict, disorder, and poverty p22.
in this sense, there is no inherent moral orientation, but rather our social roles have norms attached to them that guide individuals in performing their societal roles.
the lack of individual moral agency in the X account necessitates that individuals be treated as subjects of a kinds of moral education imposed from above on those below by the sage kings
political authority is needed to govern society according to a regulatory system, regulating ritual propriety p22
The justification for political authority is thus somewhat similar to the M consequentialist account, with the justification for a rulers authority resting on their ability to successfully organize society, and provide for human and social flourishing
In contrast to M, X diverges sharply in asserting that moral virtue, nor any value orientations at all, exist prior to the establishment of political authority
Here, X is in direct contrast to M in denying any kind of moral agency absent of political authority
To X, there are no values in the SoN save for a given individuals particular appetites and aversions.
consequently, Xs justifications differ form Ms in that both moral virtue and political authority emerge from the same source, tracing the exist from the SoN to sage-kings who imposed political authority and moral virtue onto the people to resolve the SoN
in the X account, the sage-kings were motivated to implement order as they despised the disorder found in PP society p22
this is motivated by a fundamental belief in Xs account, that the what distinguishes humans from pre-political society or animals is our capacity to form complex communities and fill distinct social roles, noting that "humans cannot lack a community" p21
further, in the state of nature, there is no social cooperation or organization, with humans living a life that is more akin to an animal than one that is fully human, as X contends to live a fully human life we must be members of a social organization, requiring active and affirming participation from individuals