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W8 - B2 - CHAPTER 4
ACTS OF GOD?
Timothy Chappell (2)
3 OTHER ARGUMENTS
AGAINST MIRACLES
from Hume, p.144
1- HUMAN PASSION OF
SURPRISE AND WONDER
2- FOUND IN IGNORANT
AND BARBAROUS NATIONS
3- MIRACLES REPORTS FROM DIFF
RELIGIONS CANCEL E/O OUT
checking this is not up to philosophy,
it is down to history, psychology or sociology
2 ADDITIONAL
ARGUMENTS
1- SILLINESS, p.146
SOME MIRACLES
TOO SILLY TO BE TRUE
HOLY AUBERGINE
BLOOD WEEPING VIRGIN MARY
2- SELECTIVENESS, p.147
IF GOD CAN DO MIRACLES,
WHY DOES HE CHOOSE
"SILLY" MIRACLES RATHER THAN
ONES SAVING LIFE?
BELIEVING IN
MIRACLES
= BELIEVING GOD ACTS
IN MYSTERIOUSLY SELECTIVE WAYS
THE ARGUMENT FROM RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE, p.150
THE ARGUMENT
1- IF PEOPLE HAVE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE,
THEN GOD EXISTS
2- PEOPLE DO HAVE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCES, SO GOD EXISTS
CONNECTION WITH
MIRACLES
IF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCES ARE
EXPERIENCES OF GOD, THEN
THEY ARE MIRACLES
RECORDING
Keith Ward interview
DEF RELIGIOUS
EXPERIENCE
VERY BROAD (almost any experience
of sthg wonderful, exceptional...)
NOT "GOD SPEAKS TO ME,
THEREFORE GOD EXISTS"
WE CAN BE WRONG
THINKING ITS GOD
TESTS NEEDED
(moral tests, peer group tests)
THE AZTECS OBJECTION
RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
IS CULTURALLY BOUND
NEVER SURE OF TRUTH,
AS ITS WITHIN OUR OWN CULTURE
WE HAVE TO ASKS WHETHER EXPERIENCE
CONTRADICTS OUR VALUES OR TRANSCEND THEM TO IMPROVE THEM, p.152
NOT LIKE MENTAL ILLNESS
MENTAL ILLNESS =
DEBILITATING
NOT LIKE HELMET EXPERIMENTS
BECAUSE THESE ARE
"MADE UP EXPERIENCES"
EVERY EXPERIENCE COMES
WITH AN INTERPRETATION
SO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS
= DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS
AND NO RELIGION
IS ALSO AN INTERPRETATION
(ppl may have relig. experience
but do not call them that way)
ARE THESE EXPERIENCES
RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCES?
MILLIONS OF REPORTS
OF EXTRAORDINARY
EXPERIENCES
PERCEPTION (OF GOD) IS
CONSIDERED IN THESE EXPERIENCES
LIKE ANY OTHER SENSORIAL PERCEPTION, p.155
DIFFERENCES WITH
ORDINARY PERCEPTION
ORDINARY PERCEPTION IS ALSO
PERCEIVED BY OTHER PPL
BUT SOME BELIEVERS MAY SAY
EVERYONE EXPERIENCES IT
BUT INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY
SOME OTHER BELIEVERS
MAY SAY RELIGIOUS EXP.
IS SELECTIVE
BUT THEN WHY?
RELIGIOUS PERCEPTION
CANT BE EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE
WHICH BELIEVERS
WOULD AGREE WITH
NON-BELIEVERS MAY THINK IF ITS NOT
EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE, THEN IT DOESNT EXIST
OTHER NON-BELIEVERS
THINK THERE ACTUALLY IS
A SCIENTIFIC EXPLANAT°
THE GOD HELMET
EXPERIMENT
Michael Persinger
SEND ELECTRIC DISCHARGES
TO TEMPORAL LOBES OF BRAIN
SOME PPL = PRROVES RELIGIOUS
EXPERIENCES = ONLY ELECTRIC
STIMULATION OF BRAIN
OTHER PPL = YES? BUT PROVOKED BY
MEN; RELIGIOUS EXP ARE PROVOKED
BY GOD
COUNTER
ARGUMENTS, p.159
SOME RELIGIOUS EXPR
SOUND SILLY TOO
SOME SINISTER
(DEVIL ASKING TO KILL)
IF SINISTER, BETTER AVOIDING IT...
RELIGIOUS EXP HAPPENS, PPL REACT DIFFERENTLY
(do good or bad)
SILLY / SINISTER = FAKE, BECAUSE
GOOD GOD CANNOT CAUSE ANY OF THEM