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First week: John Stuart Mill, Utilitarianism, Chapters 1–2, - Coggle…

- - - - any virtue we only care because it is pleasure or because being without is pain
      - Sort of engh for consequences because that's not entirely pleasure. I think we want experiences that are entirely pressure, some are things mixed with pleasure
      - you cant think of something you want and it be bad LOL
      - pleasure vs achievement
      - pleasure is truth
      - issues with virtue
        
        virtues has to do some good,
        
        not inherently good
        
        we have decided this to max pleasure
- - - - people may not consistently exchange high for low pleasure
- - - - proof
      - problems 2
        
        is the focus on pleasure to narrow?
        
        some values that are moral and valued but not pleasure
        
        maybe values could me more of the side of fear and avoidance of pain
        
        freeedom of speech and utility thing
        
        needs to allow thought and its fine
        
        a lot of this is fear of neg pleasure
        
        trump riots
        
        what reductions are worth
        
        I value creativity and the self over school marks sometimes
        
        what about meaning in those who enforce rule ultitlarnism
        
        do rules unless its terrible?
        
        proof: 3 and 4 death note dub
        
        if we desire something it must be pleasant for me?
        
        What about after we die or others or susan wolf
        
        virtue usually good
        
        community vs individuals
        
        These are our values held back by fear
- - - - what can be offered instead
      - you can choose between one thing and another based on pleasure
      - types of people wanting diif pleasures instead of not being able to do higher ones
      - there can be execeptions to no trading high for low
        
        maybe total?
        
        maybe higher pleasure contribute more pleasures outwards which give more to you
        
        you can only really maximize pleasure for yourself no absolute knowledge
        
        no intrinsic knowledge