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Knowledge of God (Natural vs Revealed (Emil Brunner vs Karl Barth 1934…

- - - - Belived that God 'sparks glory' in nature providing a 'point of contact' allowing humans to have some knowledge of God
      - general revelation through nature as experinced through sensus divnitartis and concience- not enough for redemption ( that is only through Christ)
      - Natural theology offers' the possibility of a discussion pointing towards such evidence of the existance of God that we have'
      - Arguments
        
        Imago Dei- immage of God for humans was destroyed at the emotional and material level after the fall but not the spiritual level , allowing humans to be addressed by God
        
        General revelation-God communicates through nature but due to blind sinful humans all they can see is that god exists not his message
        
        Concience and guilt makes people aware of God's law
        
        True Knowledge- true knowledge is available through fiath in Christ the revelation of christ far surpasses the general revelation through nature
    - - The fall has distorted humans so there can be no point of contact between them and God
      - Arguments
        
        The fall has blotted out the material selfs ability to know God that it is impossible for the spiritual selfto ever inform the material self about God
        
        Nature concience and guilt are only experinced after Gods grace through revelation, they are not naturally occuring points of contact
        
        We can percieve order in creation but agian it is only after it has been revealed to us through faith and the Bible - Brunner gies too much importance to human reason
      - due to the rise of Nazism that appealed to natureal order Barth was suspicious of natural theology
- - - - provides strong reason to belive but reinforces that God is incomprahensible
    - - duplex cognition Domini- the two fold knowledge of God as the Redeemer and the Creator . God the Creator shows his existance from order and design
      - Psalmists declare 'the heavens are telling the gory of Glod ;and the firmament proclaims his handiwork
      - Principle of accomodation Calvin -God manifests himself in ways that finite human minds can understand ie Jesus
      - William Playe argued purpose and design b
      - many counter that nature is more brutal than it is beautiful
      - Darwins theory of evolution counters this as nature has no purpose and natire without a purpose makes God redundant
    - - Heisenbergs uncertainty principle implies that path taken by a certain particle is perhaps random but constrained by overal quantum mechanics
      - Jugerman suggests that similarly God provides oeral primordial guidance but the actual development is contingent upon worldly decisions
  - - - rejects natural theology but belives in sensus divinitatis
      - if there was no god there would be no claims to know him
      - Basic knowledge is only aailable to the Christian as only Christ can remove the sin that corrupts the sensus divinitatis and the Holy Spirit helps the beliver to respond ( like glasses for poorly eyes)
      - atheological objector-those who reject all theological claims ie religious experience is just a halluination ect
        
        Platinga argues there can be no proof for or against belief but htere is ood reason to maintian it
      - there is not enough evidence for God to be a basic belief
      - Assumes Christian beliefs are true through just appealing to fiath and the Bible
      - same arguement could be used for the toothfairy and santa
- - - - Jesus 'mirros' by reflecting Gods qualitiies
      - Catholics belive that althoughChrist is the full and final revelation of God it is not ended and every generation needs to re think the role of faith
      - Is the knowedge of God just for christisans and those who know christ
- - - - means joint knowledge and it is the presence of God that gives us a sense of moral judgment
      - human ability to refelct and regognise Gods existance is an important part of natural thoelogy
        
        Aquinas and his 5 way 'uncaused cause