Episode #1:
Metacurrency/Value Flows
Amanda: (Sigh). In these modern metaphysical accounting systems, we are still counting everything and giving the same kinds of external rewards.
Colin: don't you need incentives?
Alexar: Currency is not just about incentives, but giving visibility to flow patterns
Alexander: by being in a certain modality, we co-arise. We can be that system we want to see in the world. In this group, we don't have to convince each other. We are here to live in a thriving community.
FinTech 2.0: Nondominium (bring all stakeholders of assets together and create an agreement where no one has defininitive power)
Chris: Our problem is that institutions (governments or corporation), artificial legal entities, comes in between in you and me. I work with agreements, with frameworks of trust, agreements for risk/cost/surplus sharing, people protocols instead of machine protocols (like the blockchain + tokens). I design institutions and contracts. I understand currencies, but am interested in frameworks of trust. We are going beyond the middle men, but we need framework of trust for nonhierarchical environments. This involves credits and risk agreements. People/associative protocols. All of us here could form a club now, and we could do this, this, and this, and start keeping score. What units do we use to keep score? I see the future as a club of clubs, and we become willing members to these agreements to self-organize
Amanda: Is this not like the freelancers' movement?
Alexar: What keeps them accountable is the protocols that people are agreeing on, not hiding behind institutions
Chris: Shariah law--> you are looking at interactive, consensual law, "contracts de societe" instead of "contracts de mandat".
Phalan: So, basically, which "Regime of Truth" will you be willing to subscribe to?
Amanda: It's going to be hard to implement. And in open systems you get biases.
Chris: But Amanda, a club is both open and closed. It's open, because anyone who subscribes to the rules can join. It's an interactive agreement, and that solves the problems of intellectual property. Let's create a framework where moral rights, rights of use, can be shared. I have done a huge amount of work on this. We solve the problems with open source. This boils down to: property is not an object, money is not a thing, they are relationships. Let's forget the "sharing economy" and do it a different way.
Jamie: I am inspired by the MetaCurrency Project, which is trying to bring conciousness to the idea that externalities are not externalities but are kinds of currencies that cannot be turned into dollar figures
Conversational Technology: Knowlege Trails (This started after the meeting was officially over) What are we needing?What kind of things could we do to increase the learning produced by our conversation? How can we create a long term memory so we are not starting over every time?
Phalan: We need a strong framework of truth so that we can be sure of the integrity of what we are doing.
Colin: We can create mapping templates.We could have maps embedded in web pages. Main map of hot topics, then sub-level details, and overall conversations. Knowledge Trails: the ability to go in the video conversation at, say, 2 minutes, and add comments. Like a video segmentIf there are 5 good segments that you wanted in a 3 hour video, you can just mark it in 3 places. You could have a trail A and a trail B, and people go go through the video in different ways through the trails. You could even have it as a watch party,so that one person could pause it and it would pause for everybody. How to build a trail? You would have to put in, start here from 4 minutes to 6 minutes.
Phalan: Let's say we have something within the tree branch. One year from now, when we have a bunch of conversations, and there are similar threads, say, for example, about currency or biology, that has an inherent connection, a market is set that connects it to something else, that connects it to something else. How do we delineate this?
Colin: You put that in your RDF data type when we are building our personal pods. In this pod, you can put whatever criteria you want. "Metacurrency and Chris," so that when you have the sliders, when you have it digitized, you can have this automated.
Phalan: If we are going to have videos embedded in the map, and we have several different snippets of video that connect to certain ideas, we have on that map several different discussions, but the ideas hold bridges within other discussions, and you want to set a marker.
Alexar: You are taking about veritical connections
Phalan: How do we establish the architecture for this? We could set a marker, and then set it later on.
Colin: It woud be great if we [meeting participants] had an autotag feature, so that while we were in a meeting we could tag a certain section (mark and park), so that you can pull these sections down on a track and make a video without rendering. It would be great if we could have a hackathon to actually produce this. We have a chance to reinvent Truth TV.
Alexar: a hackathon project I did in Amsterdam is called ???, news the other way, where instead of getting a flattened thing, you get something you can trace back to its origin. If I was interviewed for a topic, and bits were used on the TV, I could take that out so they couldn't use it anymore.
Colin: Knowledge Trails keep conversations in the flow, because if you have a comment about something or disagree, you can mark that point and come back to it instead of interrupting the person who is speaking. (Lauren: this is perfect for introverts)
Alexar: you are allowing for complexity to emerge. I can see a situation where people take on roles to assemble a particular thing. You don't need to know what the information will be used for.
Phalan: Could you use this technology to depict the history of critical thought?
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