Possible subject matters
Phalan: coming from nondominium,
about the self vs. the collective.
archetypes
Alexar: would like to propose a discussion. Wed. March 13. He has been shortlisted for the World Expo 2020 in Dubai. The subject: "Global Emergence Makers" creating a community into a complex living system by facilitating information like Nietzche does it, inspired by nature, that can heal itself and adapt. There is technology, facilitation.
The first open source movie:
how could this be accomplished?
Lauren: Could we choose archetypes?
Colin: Should we default some until validated?
What software are we going to be using?
Josh: starting a club that takes a serious look at the untapped resources of both biomimicry, and symbiotic relationships with insects and healing all diseases on this planet. See this business insider article
Discuss the what, why, who, how (in that or different order?)
Using already existing, ready-made, off-the-shelf packages: In the chat, we have talked about the following: Keybase, Kumu, https://framasoft.org/en/, Coggle, Workflowy, and many others.
skreutzer: Have a look at the Loomio thread for it, asked some questions there that can be discussed in a call or in Loomio, still, no need to.
Lauren: Aaron brought up this fascinating question: Is there some sort of "new age compliant" factor in today's tech? That made me think of a "new age compliance bureau" and it made me laugh.
Co-development of custom or missing software.
Topic meta-discussion
skreutzer: what are the tasks we need/want to do that would benefit from support by software? Why not use our own software?
Stephan, isn't that pretty complicated to make up our own software?
skreutzer: Yes, somewhat, it depends. The participants of the next meeting could discuss what's needed/wanted and if + which existing packages do the job, and describe offers to others who don't know a particular application/service yet + have them look into those in more detail. Precondition is some clarity about what the problem is that needs a solution, if there's any problem at all. There's also the option to discuss what software to use without a particular reason/problem-to-solve, just for the sake of using software and discussing what people like/dislike about it. Trying to prepare/figure-out the topic a little in advance: it might be a software user gathering and not a dev tech talk. Topic could be "propose/review/pick" your favorite applications (that help in this project context or are otherwise interesting). Remove branches that are out of scope.
skreutzer: It's probably not this topic/branch (out of scope), could be removed.
Topic meta-discussion
skreutzer: what do you mean? What's the source of a movie, and what does "openness" mean? There have been several movies about "Open Source", and surely movies have been made already in an "Open Source" way, unaware of that? Furthermore: why make one, and does it make it a difference if it would be the first or another one?
Lauren: Jonny, Charles, and I had a meeting about the proposed June hackathon at NYU's ITP program at Tisch. We came up with the idea to center the hackathon around a movie plotline, so that different groups could brainstorm different elements of the plot, the choreography, costumes, coordination, knowledge management, and building tech. This would not, I am sure, be the world's first open source movie, but we hope that it will be able to introduce the concept of media versioning more broadly.
skreutzer: So there might be more or less "open sourcy" aspects to it (and indeed highly desirable), it also sounds like it has collaborative/p2p/user-generated/crowdsourced/remix components as well. Especially the remix culture notion (despite the "remix" name not very fitting in this context) via Lessig and Creative Commons (not all of them are "Open Source" btw) comes to mind. What do you mean by "media versioning"?