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Joel's Shelter (Shelter 2018 (People (Kiegan, Tim, Fletcher, Gus,…

- - - - needs insulation te prevent convection, mk
      - only sutiable in environments with trees or other potential anchors (AH)
    - - Tarp with bug net
        
        Not always necessary but provides comfort
      - Not ideal for fall weather, more of a last resort then -TP
      - Provides great ventilation in hot or humid environments (KD)
    - - help prevent condensation in tent, mk
      - Not ideal for winter camping (KD)
    - - Allows a big shared space to create a comfortable social setting inside the tent (KD)
  - - - Fly -IS
      - Pull fly taught - should not be touching the fabric of the tent -IS
        
        Contact with the tent results in condensation buildup -TP
      - more ventilation without it, but you dont want to be stuck in the rain without it so know the forecast (KD)
    - - Titanium
        
        Shepard Hook Lightest stakes on the market JA
      - plastic
        
        Inexpensive but easy to break (KD)
      - Steel
        
        Snow Peak Solid Stake FC
      - Aluminum
        
        MSR Blizzard FC
        
        MSR Groundhogs FC
        
        MSR Groundhog Mini FC
        
        cheap and effective aluminum stakes can be bought at walmart for under a dollar, mk
      - When putting stakes in the ground, don't step on them, use a rock to tap in the stake.-SD
      - If the stake isn't going in, try moving it, the steak may be hitting a rock or root you aren't aware of.-SD
      - Random Sticks found on site JW
      - Put stakes into the ground at an angle close to 90 degrees -IS
        
        90 degrees with the ground would be straight in, which is not ideal, 45 degrees is better (kd)
        
        90 degrees from the direction of pull JA
      - Carbon Fiber FC
        
        MSR Carbon Core FC
      - Stake Technique -JF
        
        Everyone should have at least 6-JF
        
        Sticks are very effective if missing some -JF
        
        Aluminium is cheap but doesn't hold up as well -TP
        
        Stakes should be inserted at close to 90 degree angle in dirt - JF
        
        Dead mans method good for staking in snow - JF
        
        Snow/sand tent anchors are effective as well -JF
        
        Use a rock or object to drive stakes in, stepping on the bends them -JF
        
        Go to nearby state campground for free stakes - JF
        
        Label your stakes to not confuse them with others (KD)
        
        If you try to unbend a bent stake it will most likely break, instead just leave it and buy more after the trip (kd)
      - count stakes and make sure you have all of them before leaving campsite- OD
      - always keep a collection of your own stakes on trips, avoiding the classic no-stake situation when using other tents (ie school tents) (chlo)
      - Shape JA
        
        Y
        
        Groundhog
        
        Shepard hook
    - - fragile, mk
      - Material
        
        Glass fibre
        
        Pros
        
        Flex, Cost, Spares
        
        Cons
        
        breakable
        
        Steel
        
        Pros
        
        Strength and cost
        
        Cons
        
        Weight and corrosion
        
        Aluminum Alloy
        
        Pros
        
        Light and Strong
        
        Cons
        
        Cost
        
        Carbon Fiber - AV
      - Should have an extra in case of a break
      - make sure to have the right tent poles before going into the field- OD
      - should have splint in pole bag incase of break - LC
    - - should be taut for maximum comfort HB
    - - Make sure lines under footprint are connected and tight -JF
    - - can be used above or below tents, mk
        
        DO NOT place tarp under tent if cooking in the vestibule, will burn hole in tarp -TP
    - - Storage KH
        
        be sure not to lean gear against walls of vestibule, mk
      - Cooking KH
        
        Should put down ground shield -JF
        
        better to use closed stove system, alchohol can burn down tents easily, mk
      - create enclosed spaces to shelter gear/ cook in without dirtying the sleeping chamber (chlo)
    - - Needs to be checked each time the tent is set up -TP
      - Tangle and snag easy, pains to deal with once messed up. Keep in nice conditions -TP
  - - - Top of the line, professional grade CF
      - good for colder temps, mk
      - Company aims for lightweight tents yet, keeping strength to withstand harsh conditions -SD
      - Much more expensive then other brands-SD
        
        "the Lambo of tents" (KD)
      - Offers wide variety of sizes and styles -TP
      - anjan, mk
      - tent construction and proper use of guy lines allows these tents to withstand extreme winds (chlo)
      - feature large vestibules often, making for varied shelter (ie inside the tent vs. ventricle space. (chlo)
      - Jannu is a great 2 person tent for cold weather camping - LC
    - - Consumer grade, not suitable for less than perfect weather.
      - Common for beginner car campers (KD)
    - - Fairs well in bad weather, features basic and not as efficient as others.
    - - light weight SM
        
        great for backpacking SM
      - good in bad weather SM
        
        three season tent SM
      - good ventilation SM
      - expensive-investment SM
    - - Whetstone shelter with floor - 2 pounds -IS
      - Deep creek pole tarp - IS
      - Onyx UL Tarp - 14 oz -IS
      - https://www.bigagnes.com/Gear/Tents/Tarps-and-Shades/custitem_tentweight/Under-2lbs -IS
      - Fly Creek UL1 JA
      - Fly reek UL 2 JA
    - - Marmot Limelight 4 Person 3 Season FC
      - Marmot Thor 2 Person 4 Season FC
      - Marmot Tungsten 2 person 3 Season FC
      - Marmot Lair 8 Person 4 Season FC
    - - Mountain 25 2-Person 4-Season FC
      - Stormbreak 2 person 3 season FC
      - Stormbreak 1 person 3 season FC
      - O2 2 Person 3 Season FC
    - - Made in the USA -IS
        
        Half ultra mid insert 0.91 pounds -IS
        
        Ultralight pyramid pole tent - 1.17 pounds -IS
        
        Flat tarp - Echo 2 catenary cut tarp -IS
      - simple light weight designs provide not much insulation - IS
      - Shelters made from Dyneema Composite Fabrics (formerly known as Cuban fiber) -IS
      - https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/collections/ultralight-backpacking-shelters-tents/products/ultamid-2-half-insert -IS
    - - Duplex 2.0 (19 oz) FC
      - Soloplex 1 person JA
      - Altaplex 1+person JA
    - - Cheapest tents available -TP
      - Not great quality -TP
      - Most Ideal for good summer conditions -TP
  - - - Used to warm up for a short period of time
    - - the more people, the more insulation- OD
  - - - can lead to bears or other unwanted creature arriving, mk
    - - Make food inaccessible to mice they will chew your gear JA
  - - - Synthetic JW
        
        can get wet without ruining bag HB
        
        warm SM
        
        bulkier than down SM
      - Down JW
        
        If wet, ineffective.
        
        If down keeps getting wet, overtime the feathers will clump up and eliminate a lot of that dead air space-AV
        
        better warmth to weight ration (AH)
        
        down is more expensive in general (AH)
    - - Thermalite is a good brand
      - Fleece liners SM
        
        adds 10 degrees SM
        
        bulky SM
        
        useless if wet SM
        
        Dries very fast, mk
        
        can be used to keep a down bad dry from tent condensation, mk
    - - Open Cell
        
        Open cell keeps body colder due to more airflow.
      - Closed cell
        
        Closed cells trap air to maintain dead air space.
      - Not mandatory in warmer weather, but improves conditions -TP
      - self inflating (AH)
        
        tends to be heavier (AH)
      - air chamber (AH)
        
        more difficult to inflate (AH)
        
        far more comfortable to sleep on than non inflatable, mk
  - - - Area awareness required, watch out for bears! -TP
      - Not a good idea usually -JF
      - you can see the stars on a clear night! SM
      - not ideal in buggy areas (KD)
      - Watch for poison ivy(bill)
      - can use bivey sack to ward off bugs. mk
      - hammocks make this far more enjoyable, mk
      - More Versatility in where you can sleep JA
  - - - Insulated snow shelters -IS
        
        Snow will be the most abundant insulating material -IS
        
        Requires correct gear/ideal situations -TP
        
        Insulate ground with pine boughs or other foliage to slow the loss of body heat -IS
        
        The shelter is too warm unless you can see your breath and snow will start to melt. -IS
      - Four Season Tents -TP
        
        Expensive -TP
        
        Harder to find in larger sizes -TP
        
        Valuable and useful once owned (KD)
      - Igloos: could be more or less challenging to build depending on snow quality (KD)
    - - 3 more items...
  - - - quick and easy if no time to set up tent- OD
      - Provides awesome protection from the wind if coming from any of the 3 sides with walls- OD
      - not good option in cold weather since one side is open- OD
    - - Shelter from wind and rain CF
  - - - can be put up without guy lines (Gus)
      - good for compact camp sites where it might not be possible to put up guy lines (Gus)
      - should still use guy lines when possible (Gus
    - - require the tension of being staked and guyed to stand (Gus)
      - harder to put up then self supporting tents (Gus)
      - a great weight to space ratio (Gus)
      - Trekking Pole tents JA
        
        Saves weight by making pole dual purpose JA
      - Tarp tents JA
    - - signal wall (Gus)
        
        lighter then double wall (Gus)
        
        normally faster to put up (Gus)
        
        most can be put up with out getting the insides wet(Gus)
        
        If significant ventilation is possible condensation isn't a problem (Joel)
      - doubled wall (Gus)
        
        condensation is much less of an issue (Gus)
        
        much more ventilation control (Gus
  - - - ventilation can control condensation (AH)