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LESSON 2 Ang mga batayan sa Matandang Tipan na Si Cristo Raw ay Dios na…

- - - - 1. We are not against the statement that this verse is in reference to Christ. However it doesn't prove his pre existence, nor that Christ is God
      - 2. The verse states "From you(Bethlehem) come forth" refers to birthplace. "Come forth to me(God)" refers to the Election from God. And the final portion of the verse "who's goings are from old to everlasting" refers to the Fact that Christ is a plan coming from God. (John 8:42)
      - 3. The explanation of some scholars in regards to Micah 5:2 states; "The Shepherd king of Israel will be born in Bethlehem, like David. And could mean from the times of David and not a pre existence" Oxford Annotated Bible, Revised Standard Version
- - - - 1. The verse never states that Christ is the Commander of the Army of God.
      - 2. The angels and Michael are the army of God Psalms 103:20-21 and Michael is the Commander of this army
        Daniel 10:21,13
        21 But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. (No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince.
      - 3. There is nothing in the bible that says that Christ is the Ark Angel Michael
      - 4. Christ is Above the angels including Michael
        Ephesians 1:22
        And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church,
      - 5. Who is Michael?
        a. Captain of Gods army fighting against the Dragon
        Revelation 12:7
        Jude 1:9
- - - - Why This Argument is Wrong
        
        1. The verse doesn't expressly state that Christ said He was there since the Beginning .
        
        2. It is wrong to use this verse because it is not talking about pre existence of the one sent and the one sent is not Christ but Isaiah
        easy to read version
        Come here and listen to me!
        I was there when Babylon began as a nation.
        And from the beginning, I spoke clearly
        so that people could know what I said.”
        (Isaiah says) Now, the Lord God sends me and his Spirit to tell you these things.
        
        The Living Bible translation refers to this messenger as Ciro and not Christ.